Western man and asian escort relationships
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01/27/11 06:41
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I cannot tell you the countless number of men who have told me they gave a girl every thing she ask for and more to quit seeing men. First not every man story is as good as he tell it but I do believe some of you have done this and feel helpless. Let me try and tell you why for 99% of these girls why security is not enough.
I have to start with a not about a lot of men. Many men will not accept what they see in front of them. their girl is always the exception to what I am about to say...... just like a wife who has all the evidence her husband is cheating but every one in city know it but her and she angry with her freinds if they dare accuse her husband. If you dont want to know what is real I cant help you understand. some of these girls even if marry you are sincere at first and some never sincere from the start. Never sincere is she have a bf or hope to find a younger bf but younger have less money so she use you to get near to him. I know some girls right now marry to western men who online when he working and making online bfs. Some cause they want to leave and some just as back up plan if later they break up.....either way is that a lady in love? This is simply a girl spending time with you waiting for a better deal or some one she really love....... I know you love her but you must wake up. And dont try to cut off her net or keep her on a leesh cause that will just make her fuck the first guy in your town when she get away from you controlling eye. IF you cant trust her love her or not you cant win. the bottom line is if she not love you you cant make her and controlling her will make you lose REAL friends and even risk your job and sanity. Many men let their work suffer whilst calling home or going home to peak in the window every 30 minute. If the girl is sincere or close to sincere and you control style man. What do I mean control? if your blood pressure rise when one of your friends look at her....if you are scared to let her have her own friends and go places alone with them..... if you out together and she looks around the room you ask her who she is looking at..... if she 10 minutes late coming home from the market you start to think where is she. IT WILL NOT WORK. I have seen men who wait they wife come home and she late for honest reason but he worry and many thing go through his head and then she come home and even though he happy he is already worked up inside from worry and his tone is not the same and a girl can tell. MANY control guy are not monsters they care and sweet guy but they not know how to handle their emotions and lose control of themself. It sound odd but a man who controls his lady is due do he cant control his own bad thoughts. You dont control and you give her all security in life and she act soo happy around you and she still cheat. it depend on a few thing. I know you know the saying you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl. In some case this is true......if I girl work bar a long time it become her life and how she know life. WHY? cause every man before want to impress her so every date from the bar is a dinner or go shopping or take to beach or to some exciting place. Of cause a married couple cant to this every day and even if she love you at first her life become boring to her. SOme men promise things to family and then change after marry. Be careful cause some times you promise things and not even understand you did. That may sound impossible but in different cultures even your action may imply certain things. of cause some men just out right make promises knowing they cannot keep them. -------------------- Do you want your balls in my hand or do you want me to hand you your balls?
-2 hours 6000 baht *lunch or dinner + 2 hours 6000 baht -4 hour 7, 500 *lunch or dinner + 4 hours 6500 baht -all day OR all night 9500 baht - 24 hour 12000 www.gappza.me |
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01/27/11 09:45
luli123 |
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Last year in summer a friend of my old parents who is a registrar called me and asked for help.
A guy from her little town wanted to get married with a lady from Thailand. As the lady did not know speaking German at all and her English language skills were poor, a freelance interpreter was necessary. Well, as the registrar knew that I was available she asked me to act as interpreter during the wedding ceremony (registration). Normally I am not available for this type of job, but it was not far away, I was free, a friend of my parents asked for support, and the duration was about one hour, only. So, I agreed and called the bridegroom to discuss the details. ;) The background story was the typical nightmare. A 55 years old retired soldier, self considered "expert" of Thailand and especially of Thai women, wanted to marry his 26 years old "Thai angel". The typical soap opera... The registration ceremony one week later was fine, nothing extraordinary. An older sister of the bride was there, too. After the registration it was interesting for me to hear, when the bride told her sister, that she would leave her old husband as soon as she would find a better one. I did not inform her husband about her intention, for he was an adult man and an expert. There are books available informing about the specials of this topic. But what can books help, when hormones, ignorance, and arrogance are stronger? Just to avoid misunderstandings, - I do not say that there are no good relationships among Thai ladies and Western men. Furthermore in my understanding it goes too far when Kitty talks about "Asian" escorts. Mentalities are different in Asia. |
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01/27/11 22:56
dohm |
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It is true and obvious that Asian women are different from Westerners. Notably, they differ in their mentality and mind settings, upbringing backgrounds which somehow influences their behaviors, their work habits and their social values.
I am a little bit shocked with the apprehensions or opinion of Kitty about asian women married to older western men, to rebel with their husbands by... fucking the first guy she met in town, whenever they have misunderstanding especially when she feels being controlled by her husband. Plus her opinion that asian women marry older stable western men but looking for a younger bf to switch on later. Of course we respect her opinion which is probably based on her knowledge and personal observations of the practices of the community or country she grew up and belong. The sharing of luli 23 on the younger woman telling to her older sister her future plan to leave her husband later anyway, during their own marriage ceremony with her husband, perhaps reinforces the opinion and observation of kitty. For other asian countries like my country the Philippines, many filipino women that were married to western older men whom they met while working abroad. In our clan alone, there are 3 of them plus 2 of my close friends married westerners far older than them within the last 8 years, and the marriages are successful until now. Maybe because the objective of these filipino women married to their older men is to have a stable family and better living, not just for temporary material things and even to the extent of leaving their own country. And of course, these women had nothing to hide of their past plus they stay faithful and loyal to their husbands which is keeping their marriage intact. The common characteristic of asian women, especially the Filipino wife is that generally, they tend to be emotional and become often submissive to their husbands as a show of loyalty. Loving their husbands is their business even through thick and thin and supporting him and the family all the way they can, with their utmost affection. This is the big difference (as observed and learned) from those western counterparts. Filipino women generally are showy of their strong feelings and affection with their men by finding ways and trying to do every little thing to please them. Perhaps the said difference can be attributted to the cultural heritage, history and environment and the present conditions of the said countries. -------------------- Plan your moves then move your plan...for moves without proper planning brings catastrophe!
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01/27/11 23:30
Naughty Kitty |
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I hope dohm is joking. the Philippines is far worse than Thailand. At least in Thaialnd the parents rarely leave their land. In the philippines once she hook a western man he has to bring ALL her family over and it happens daily. I have talk to many man who paid to being entore philippino families over and then she find new man.
-------------------- Do you want your balls in my hand or do you want me to hand you your balls?
-2 hours 6000 baht *lunch or dinner + 2 hours 6000 baht -4 hour 7, 500 *lunch or dinner + 4 hours 6500 baht -all day OR all night 9500 baht - 24 hour 12000 www.gappza.me |
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01/28/11 16:32
squirtingnymph |
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Well guess what guys this is not something that happens exclusively in the Philippines or Thailand it is something that happens all over the world some women are even worst, resulting to having their husbands killed so that the woman can get insurance money but amidst all the bad reputation some women from our country have I must say that there are still others who take care of their man. There are a few who truly does love her man and who does not take advantage of his good heart. I have had men in my life and I must say that I have no problem kicking them out of my life, the only problem I have is they never seem to get over me. One even said I am the best woman he have met in his lifetime. Hearing this from a 72 year old man.
My opinion about a woman taking advantage of her husband so that She can help her family, I believe everyone would know when it is too much and just say LOOK I LOVE YOU BUT I JUST HAVE TO DAY THIS- I MARRIED YOU AND NOT YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, WE WILL HELP WHEN WE CAN BUT IF IT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL NO WAY. Men should not let the woman take advantage of them and women on the other hand should always respect her man. After all he works so hard to give them a great life. You could set rules such as loaned money should be paid and not considered given. Have them sign an agreement. That way you are not putting yourself in a very vulnerable position. There is no wrong in helping one's family but one has to draw lines... People take advantage of those who let them, in most cases. In some cases, people are so prone to pleasing others that it takes little effort for others to take advantage. Of course, it's also important to remember that when you think someone is taking advantage of you, that isn't always true. Sometimes we forget what other people do for us, and they may be getting things from us without much thought because, after all, they do things for you all the time. |
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01/28/11 18:45
Michael2015 |
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This happens in America, too. My brother married a woman that wears the pants in the family while my brother wears the panties; I'm sure my brother's wife took his balls away B4 they married as he's too spineless to stand up to her!
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01/28/11 21:35
Naughty Kitty |
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I think people forget the title of this post. it is western men with asian escorts or bar girls. I was not talking about any other relationship. If you Asian sister is not a bar girl than I am not talking about you.
-------------------- Do you want your balls in my hand or do you want me to hand you your balls?
-2 hours 6000 baht *lunch or dinner + 2 hours 6000 baht -4 hour 7, 500 *lunch or dinner + 4 hours 6500 baht -all day OR all night 9500 baht - 24 hour 12000 www.gappza.me |
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01/28/11 21:52
daniccaramos |
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quote Naughty Kitty : I hope dohm is joking. the Philippines is far worse than Thailand. At least in Thaialnd the parents rarely leave their land. In the philippines once she hook a western man he has to bring ALL her family over and it happens daily. I have talk to many man who paid to being entore philippino families over and then she find new man. i admit some filipina women used marriege to a foreigner to get his family out of debt ,and to raised this status in the community ..but not all are like that i have many friend who married a foreigner also dont take advantage of her husband ..they help the family but to a certain point only ..many western man prefers filipina wives coz they are more caring ,loving and sweet ..marriege here is sacred and binding so they choose to live here rather than their own country |
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01/28/11 21:55
daniccaramos |
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quote squirtingnymph : Well guess what guys this is not something that happens exclusively in the Philippines or Thailand it is something that happens all over the world some women are even worst, resulting to having their husbands killed so that the woman can get insurance money but amidst all the bad reputation some women from our country have I must say that there are still others who take care of their man. There are a few who truly does love her man and who does not take advantage of his good heart. I have had men in my life and I must say that I have no problem kicking them out of my life, the only problem I have is they never seem to get over me. One even said I am the best woman he have met in his lifetime. Hearing this from a 72 year old man. My opinion about a woman taking advantage of her husband so that She can help her family, I believe everyone would know when it is too much and just say LOOK I LOVE YOU BUT I JUST HAVE TO DAY THIS- I MARRIED YOU AND NOT YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, WE WILL HELP WHEN WE CAN BUT IF IT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL NO WAY. Men should not let the woman take advantage of them and women on the other hand should always respect her man. After all he works so hard to give them a great life. You could set rules such as loaned money should be paid and not considered given. Have them sign an agreement. That way you are not putting yourself in a very vulnerable position. There is no wrong in helping one's family but one has to draw lines... People take advantage of those who let them, in most cases. In some cases, people are so prone to pleasing others that it takes little effort for others to take advantage. Of course, it's also important to remember that when you think someone is taking advantage of you, that isn't always true. Sometimes we forget what other people do for us, and they may be getting things from us without much thought because, after all, they do things for you all the time. i like your post you gave dignity to us filipina |
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01/28/11 21:58
daniccaramos |
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quote dohm : It is true and obvious that Asian women are different from Westerners. Notably, they differ in their mentality and mind settings, upbringing backgrounds which somehow influences their behaviors, their work habits and their social values. I am a little bit shocked with the apprehensions or opinion of Kitty about asian women married to older western men, to rebel with their husbands by... fucking the first guy she met in town, whenever they have misunderstanding especially when she feels being controlled by her husband. Plus her opinion that asian women marry older stable western men but looking for a younger bf to switch on later. Of course we respect her opinion which is probably based on her knowledge and personal observations of the practices of the community or country she grew up and belong. The sharing of luli 23 on the younger woman telling to her older sister her future plan to leave her husband later anyway, during their own marriage ceremony with her husband, perhaps reinforces the opinion and observation of kitty. For other asian countries like my country the Philippines, many filipino women that were married to western older men whom they met while working abroad. In our clan alone, there are 3 of them plus 2 of my close friends married westerners far older than them within the last 8 years, and the marriages are successful until now. Maybe because the objective of these filipino women married to their older men is to have a stable family and better living, not just for temporary material things and even to the extent of leaving their own country. And of course, these women had nothing to hide of their past plus they stay faithful and loyal to their husbands which is keeping their marriage intact. The common characteristic of asian women, especially the Filipino wife is that generally, they tend to be emotional and become often submissive to their husbands as a show of loyalty. Loving their husbands is their business even through thick and thin and supporting him and the family all the way they can, with their utmost affection. This is the big difference (as observed and learned) from those western counterparts. Filipino women generally are showy of their strong feelings and affection with their men by finding ways and trying to do every little thing to please them. Perhaps the said difference can be attributted to the cultural heritage, history and environment and the present conditions of the said countries. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe because the objective of these filipino women married to their older men is to have a stable family and better living, not just for temporary material things and even to the extent of leaving their own country. And of course, these women had nothing to hide of their past plus they stay faithful and loyal to their husbands which is keeping their marriage intact. thats a better way to say it..thank you for participating in this forum |
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01/28/11 22:08
daniccaramos |
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Give credit to those foreigners who want to marry Filipinas. Its well known that Filipinas (even men) are caring, compassionate and kind. Love - never mind. So many people falling in love, getting married and later on become bitter enemies that would lead to divorce. At least Filipinas especially those in the provinces are meek, but they know when they're being abused and used. So foreigners beware if your intentions are questionable. Be sure to treat your Filipina wive with love and respect, or else you would end up miserable.
It always surprices me that everytime a filipina get married to an american or eauropian,always get questioned about her wereabouts. its always that filipina wants the money of the guy.But i've never ever read or hear that when a guy married to a filipina they feel like such a king in thier house. they are being serve respected in everyway which no western woman will do.filipina work hard anywhere they are.even if they are marrie |
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01/29/11 00:45
Naughty Kitty |
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It is a fact the USA changed it laws cause of how many asian women went to usa with a man use all his money to bring family members and then leave him. And man use usa welfare after. JUST CAUSE OF THIS the usa changed so I girl will be sent back to her country if she not with the man 2 years with exception if the man physical abuse her. Also due to this if at any time she goes on welfare in her life HE is responsible to the government to pay and has to sign document accept he will before she alllowed t o go usa with him.
THIS LAW DID NOT COME ABOUT CAUSE ONLY A FEW DO IT -------------------- Do you want your balls in my hand or do you want me to hand you your balls?
-2 hours 6000 baht *lunch or dinner + 2 hours 6000 baht -4 hour 7, 500 *lunch or dinner + 4 hours 6500 baht -all day OR all night 9500 baht - 24 hour 12000 www.gappza.me |
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01/29/11 04:59
luli123 |
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quote daniccaramos : It always surprices me that everytime a filipina get married to an american or eauropian,always get questioned about her wereabouts. its always that filipina wants the money of the guy.But i've never ever read or hear that when a guy married to a filipina they feel like such a king in thier house. they are being serve respected in everyway which no western woman will do.filipina work hard anywhere they are.even if they are marrie Dani, I cannot confirm this. In my opinion Filipinas are even privileged in Western Europe. Up to today "the Filipina" is seen as the hard working, qualified, and friendly nurse. :) This is the reputation which was created decades ago, when a lot of nurses from the Philippines came to Europe. Furthermore they have obviously less integration problems. In this concern -- believe it or not -- the religion is very helpful. You go to church on Sunday and become a member of the parish, directly. Persons from the Philippines face less problems to learn the language of the new country. It is easier for them learning a new language having grammar rules.;) Communication style and logic are equal, may be because of the history of the Philippines. Also there is no food problem which cannot be solved. :) And again, in my opinion there is no typical "Asian woman". Does anybody here really believe that for example ladies from Japan, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore, Kazakhstan, and Thailand have the same mentalities? What is the typical mentality or reputation of a Thai woman? Waiting at immigration counters in Europe I have sometimes the feeling that a young lady from Thailand is less or more generally seen to be a prostitute per definition. :( Coming back to Kitty's topic I think, bar girls, escorts are not for being married. Western men fail having good relationships at home with women from their countries and cultures. Then they travel to South-East Asia meet a bar girl and believe in love and honesty. Isn't it clear that they fool each other? Both have anything else but honest interests. |
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01/29/11 05:21
luli123 |
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quote Naughty Kitty : It is a fact the USA changed it laws cause of how many asian women went to usa with a man use all his money to bring family members and then leave him. And man use usa welfare after. JUST CAUSE OF THIS the usa changed so I girl will be sent back to her country if she not with the man 2 years with exception if the man physical abuse her. Also due to this if at any time she goes on welfare in her life HE is responsible to the government to pay and has to sign document accept he will before she alllowed t o go usa with him. THIS LAW DID NOT COME ABOUT CAUSE ONLY A FEW DO IT In the EU the period is five years. Five years during which the woman is in the hand of her "husband". Five years during which she may accept a loser's moods. Here in Germany there are really a lot of prostitutes from Thailand. What do you think how many among them are married on a piece of paper, only? There is not any chance else getting a visa, and work permit for them. The more often laws are broken the harder they become. |
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01/29/11 08:11
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quote Naughty Kitty : I hope dohm is joking. the Philippines is far worse than Thailand. At least in Thaialnd the parents rarely leave their land. In the philippines once she hook a western man he has to bring ALL her family over and it happens daily. I have talk to many man who paid to being entore philippino families over and then she find new man. Let me just quote you on this. We Filipinos leave our country not to be leeches to other men or women. My mom herself had to endure the pain of being away from us just because she wants to earn higher salary for our education. "There is nothing wrong about leaving your own country" especially if one's reason is to help her family. Please apologize to us by saying that the Philippines are far worst than Thailand. We have bad reputation just because the great news about how hard and efficient workers we are rarely makes the news it is because it is human nature to talk more about what bad is happening rather than the good news. The things that you have mentioned that we Filipinos are doing is not something that we do in particular. Yes there are a lot of bad news out there, other men might have just copied other men's life stories just to get you to pity them, etc but as I have said people from my country are not the only person's doing such things people all over the world does the same thing I am not saying it is right all I am saying it is not only we Filipinos are doing it. Escort or not if a man lets her take advantage of him then it will happen. I think you need to apologize to us Filipinos clearly this is a misjudgment, pure prejudice. Every country has their own perks and quirks I refuse to accept one is better or worst than the other. |
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