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Oh yeah, and all the punters that visit working girls are really child abusers. Fiona MacTaggart - what a gal. she'd have us all strung up by the nuts for sure!

I had to cut short a blow job( i am not making this up) to do a soundbite for the 'new sex laws'on the B.B.C
For **** sake....we know that laydeez have been working together since time immemorial....
As for the UNHELPFUL comments of both politicians re: 'will think it is a career move'...and yes Ryan, i would (if i was you) be incandescent with a rage which would take Red Adair himself a struggle to extinguish.
Out of touch,out of their tiny minds....they do not help the perception of PROSTITUTION at all.
I reiterate..i truly give up.

My jaw dropped to the floor when I read Fiona MacTaggarts claim to the BBC that us clients were all child-abusers. She wants to reflect on the fact that 5% of her constituents visited working girls since the last election and would be appalled by her comments.

I took the trouble to read the original consultation document today. It would be laughable if it weren't so serious. Firstly they claim that there are 80,000 working girls out there. That would make our sex industry even bigger than that of Germany. It would mean that over 1 in 50 British women will work as prostitutes during their twenties. Sorry don't believe that. The Met figures are more like 700 women working on the streets of London - that would extrapolate to less than 6,000 women working on the streets of the UK as a whole - and even that would be a gross exaggeration since not every town in the UK has a red-light district and London has always been a magnet for sex workers. Judging by the number of girls working the streets in my home town the number of street girls working in the UK would be in the low thousands. I think this is probably closer to the truth. Of course you then have the number of girls working in parlours and those working as escorts. I would guess (looking at my home town and what I know of London) that the figures for each sector of the industry are broadly speaking equivalent. This would mean that probably less than 10,000 women are working as prostitutes, and most don't work on the streets (the figures that used to be mentioned were around 20,000 so I don't know how the government came up with 80,000 - it would need an awful lot of clients to match that kind of supply!). But the government report focusses entirely on street girls then extrapolates out what it
knows about a few of them to the whole industry. It shouldn't be very difficult at all for the government to get accurate figures for the number of girls working the streets if it really wanted to so I guess they don't care what the truth is.

Then the whole tone of the report perceives prostitution to be a problem in itself - it basically suggests that if prostitution is solved then all the problems that caused it in the first place would melt away. It mentions drug abuse, alcohol abuse, child abuse, violence in the home as reasons for girls getting involved in prostition but then fails to conclude that prostitution is (or at least can be) a symptom of those problems and that therefore it is the problem itself that must be cured, not the prostitution. Reading between the lines you can see that actually you could conclude that prostitution is actually a result of a failure of government to tackle drugs, alcohol abuse, child abuse, care home problems, educational problems etc. It is therefore hardly surprising that government, the police, Barnardo's etc. have colluded to produce a document that points the finger at the clients for perpetuating a market for prostitution instead of looking in their own back yard at the issues they have failed to resolve.

I don't ever visit street girls but I know they work in my town. I have never seen any that were as young as the report suggests. What are the police doing if they aren't taking these very young girls off the streets and getting them help? I see the odd girl on the street that obviously has a drug problem but they are in the minority. From what I have heard from friends that have visited the street that most of the girls are working because they have a kiddie at home and the welfare cheque hasn't arrived.

I'm not denying that a lot of women in the sex industry get where they are as a result of appalling problems in the rest of their life but far from all working girls come from that background. The government should start looking at prostitution as a possible symptom of other underlying problems that might need to be addressed rather than as a problem itself.

Of course I could send an email to Ms MacTaggart explaining my opinions but I don't think that Ms MacTaggart would give a toss. Its too easy to ignore the opinions of clients and escorts.

Hear Hear Ryan----where DO they get their stats from----the same place where i say my waist measurement is 24 ???? !!!!!!!

Yes i had heard about the report and as seems to be the thread on here it does not seem quite true. Maybe the street girls are awaiting there next hit, but i have been around for several years and most of the girls i know including myself are not drug addicts nor have been forced into the work! I personally do for personal reasons due to my circumstances(not drugs) And the biggy - love the sex!!!I'll keep going till im old and decriped and no one wants me! I cant see the problem if all perties are consenting. LOL Carrie x

The government make up stats and have a whole psuedo science dept to back them up

Global warming, dry winter no rain (ok It might be tough in Kent but that's it !)

They tell us that Gas demand is high because of the cold winter and despite the fact that our river (in the midlands ) is well up and my dog has left more muddy foot marks on the carpet, more often this winter than I can ever remember and the local park is like a bog. hummm .. I trust the evidence of my own eyes.

Speed cameras .. god it must have been terrible without them .. I mean every time you see any stats they are recording 30 and 40 % reductions in accidents .. It must have been slaughter before we had 6,000 of them

There is a phrase that I will not forget . A customer told me that before you consider what the statistics tell you , you need to consider what they DONT take into account . Stats can be very misleading